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Lea's flip off
No, Tycho doesn't. Or, at least not unless DJ Coffman (winner of the Platinum Studios Comic Book Challenge (a very dubious "win," that)) puts his hand up Tycho's ass and makes his mouth move.

Over at Comixpedia, in a completely unnecessary (but fun) post in response to Lisa Jonte's "How to Impress an Editor," DJ says:

"'Ever since Tycho brought it up at SDCC, I'm still wondering if GIRL-A-MATIC is a machine that produces girls automatically. And if so, is there a switch or something to calculate the "BITCH" level??
You guys will be RICH if there is!'"

I'll say again I don't think DJ could've dropped Tycho's name with a bigger thud. That was a thud that could've shaken the slab foundation of my house.
When pressed by Joey Manley, DJ admitted that Tycho had said at a CCI panel that GAM sounded like a machine that made girls, and the addition of the bit about "BITCH" was DJ's own.

I met Tycho, nee' Jerry Holkins, at CCI last year, and found him quite nice, and not at all like the sort of guy who'd want so badly to impress his constituency with how harrrrd he is, and how they're all being put down by teh wimmins, that he'd imply that GAM is some sort of bitch machine.
That implication was, in fact, entirely DJ's invention.

What's funny about DJ putting his foot in it here is his art for this month's Comixpedia depicts a guy sleeping in a hammock with a nearby sign that says, "NO DRAMA."

My response to DJ:

"No Drama" Except for DJ
Lea_Hernandez - Monday, August 14, 2006 - 10:48pm

djcoffman wrote:
Ever since Tycho brought it up at SDCC, I'm still wondering if GIRL-A-MATIC is a machine that produces girls automatically. And if so, is there a switch or something to calculate the "BITCH" level??

It was set to 15, and recalibrated to 11 after I was produced.
I don't think you could've dropped Tycho's name with a bigger thud, DJ, and speaking of: does he know you drop his name in vain?


DJ's well-thought-out response to me:
Efh off-- I wasn't "dropping
new djcoffman - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:19am

Efh off-- I wasn't "dropping his name" -- he said that on a panel discussion in front of a packed room of people. So, instead of stealing the joke, because I thought it was funny, I thought I'd give a tip of the hat to where it came from.
If I really wanted to drop his name, I'd say JERRY HOLKINS IS MY NEW BEST INTERNET FRIEND.
Now, run along and play dressup and pretend to be a REAL editor of any kind, and pretend VERY hard that it actually matters to the world.


"Play dressup." Oh, DJ, that is the saddest li'l insult ever. And if you said, "Jerry Holkins is my best new internet friend," most people would look at you and say, "Who?"

Pay attention DJ, and anyone else who decides to level "bitch" at a woman speaking her mind: it doesn't hurt if she's not afraid of it, and the kind of woman you generally seem to need to throw that insult at is more than capable of handling it. That goes double for "play dressup" and "pretend VERY hard it actually matters."
What I know is if this is how people behave, I'm doing the right thing.

And to think, I almost got through Tuesday without a Stupid Christmas!

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[info]amboy00 wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 08:50 pm (UTC)
It's funny, I don't think of bitch as a bad word anymore. It's a word that has develop multiple meanings depending on its context. His comments come out more as a blunt than a point.

Too bad too, must be hard to be taken seriously as a challenge winner when you write like a drunken sailor.
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 08:57 pm (UTC)
I couldn't anyone who won a Platinum contest seriously, even if they wrote like Alistair Cooke.
[info]rfrancis wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 08:55 pm (UTC)
Tycho was astonishingly pleasant, soft-spoken and patient when I met him at SDCC two years ago, even though I was kind of being a pain in the ass. (Well, I was trying my best to be a very minor one, I swear.) I have repaid him by never posting the picture I took of him and Gabe, which is what I was standing around waiting to take. From here we learn that I am a bastard.

Hey, that reminds me, I have a picture of you, too, Lea, hanging out at Carla Speed McNeil's booth. I really need to do something about those pictures...

Anyway. Plenty of people think that by being caustic they are aping Tycho in just the way that will make them whatever sort of celebrity he is, when I would argue that in fact he is well-loved -- such as he is, I guess -- for being extremely intelligent, rarely if ever off the handle, always well-grounded in facts, and insanely generous (see also: Child's Play.) Would that more people would ape THOSE characteristics in the comic and gaming industries...

-R
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 08:59 pm (UTC)
Yeah, they rock the Child's Play. Talk about using your powers for good.

Sorry I was abrupt yesterday. But I don't even have one of the EB BEA books, and you got one and did nothing with it yet. USE YOUR POWERS FOR GOOD, RFS!
[info]rfrancis wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 09:04 pm (UTC)
I promoed him to my listeners! C'mon, that's got to count for something! There's a hundred of 'em! Look, I even provided a link!

http://www.sturgeonslaw.com/stulaw042.html

Honestly, I didn't take it bad, and yeah, it's a shame I haven't read the minibook yet. But truly, I will order the book in my next Amazon run. I just have to space them out so the kids can eat and so on.
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 09:11 pm (UTC)
Yes, you did!

There's supposed to be some postcarss with the book. Address them and mail them out, too! Pretty please.

Yes, I totally understand about feeding kids, paying bills, etc. Oh, how I do.
[info]rfrancis wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
In fact, he waived the postcards in favor of 100 listeners. At least, I believe he did. If I go home and find postcards stuck in the booklet, then I will feel silly, and do something with them, in that order.
[info]rfrancis wrote:
Aug. 17th, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC)
Look! I was inspired to upload pictures to flickr finally!

http://flickr.com/photos/randomgang/tags/comiccreators/
[info]merlodge wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 11:25 pm (UTC)
OMG
[info]hawkward wrote:
Aug. 15th, 2006 11:43 pm (UTC)
Who's Tycho?
[info]arcana_j wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:39 am (UTC)
He's one of the creators of the astoundingly popular Penny Arcade webcomic. I met him last year at SDCC. He's a nice guy.
[info]hawkward wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:48 am (UTC)
Ohhhhh....okay.
[info]mattbayne wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:32 pm (UTC)
That's actually pretty refreshing.
[info]hawkward wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:39 pm (UTC)
Heh. I should probably know this, but my webcomics reading is very limited. ;)
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 05:23 pm (UTC)
Oh god, the icon. Destroyed.
[info]ringwoodcomics wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 12:46 am (UTC)
Who's this DJ guy? A random internet nutsack, or someone of relevance?
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 09:25 am (UTC)
Random nutsack.
[info]yirmumah wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:10 am (UTC)
Well, it sure did get a rise out of you! Hahahaha. Hey, I think there is even video of Tycho saying it somewhere, but HE was joking around with a person in the audience about it, and so was I. But you girls can't stand it when a guy jokes around about the name, can you?

What's your beef with Platinum? That's just crazy talk. You should really MAYBE keep your yapper shut about things you aren't educated about. I mean, pertaining to the win, my idea was solid and beat out more than 10,000 entries from around the world. I'm glad you guys can just discount that-- but i guess i'll let what'll happen in 2007 reply to any un-schooled naysayers in the future. I mean, are you just listening to hearsay or rumors given to you by some blow hard or disgruntled creator who signed a contract where he thought HE was getting something else?

Your responses, as well as the others there, shows just how petty the whole thing is. Get a backbone, or grow a thicker skin.

Looks like I was right about that bitch-o-meter thing. Maybe they should put you back inside the GIRL-A-MATIC and maybe set it to MILD or something, woman.
[info]ringwoodcomics wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:26 am (UTC)
Holy cow.
Did you take an annex course to become that much of a condescending asshole, or does the talent come naturally?
[info]yirmumah wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:35 am (UTC)
Re: Holy cow.
No, it was one of those Sally Struthers mail in certificates.
[info]jeepersjournal wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 03:08 am (UTC)
Wow, you certainly aren't a very nice man.
Last I checked I was though [you should do your research]. So I'll leave the internet walloping to Lea. Cause she's good at that.

This is Stupid Christmas!
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 09:25 am (UTC)
It's more like Stupid Golden Week on fast-forward.
[info]jeepersjournal wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 11:36 am (UTC)
Indeed. But without all the drunken Salarymen.
[info]furikku wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 03:08 pm (UTC)
You should really MAYBE keep your yapper shut about things you aren't educated about.

Oh, would that people would take their own advice...
[info]yirmumah wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 02:17 am (UTC)
And I'm getting emails from anonymous holes, who say Tycho would never say that, blah blah blah.. here's the video -- http://yirmumah.net/webcomic-panel/webcomicpanel04.mpg

Enjoy and learn to laugh a little more, bitches.
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 03:07 am (UTC)
What we said was Tycho didn't seem like the guy who would say, "Ever since Tycho brought it up at SDCC, I'm still wondering if GIRL-A-MATIC is a machine that produces girls automatically. And if so, is there a switch or something to calculate the "BITCH" level??"

AND HE DIDN'T. He said, "I'm still wondering if GIRL-A-MATIC is a machine that produces girls automatically."

What actually got things going down a snarky road, and thanks for that helpful clip, DJ, was Scott Kurtz bagging on GAM, which is earning him a letter from me.

The "Girls, you don't read comics when they're aimed at you, RIGHT? You think things are great the way they are, RIGHT?" Is about what I expect from a webcomics panel with NOT A SINGLE GODDAMN WOMAN ON IT.
*middle finger to San Diego programming*
(no subject) - [info]yirmumah - Aug. 16th, 2006 03:56 am (UTC)
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 04:13 am (UTC)
DJ, you are a textbook example of sexist, stupid troll.
I'm leaving your comments up, because they're so entertaining (for a while, at least) and an excellent warning to others, but banning you.

You misrepresented what Tycho said, you posted video that PROVES you misrepresented it, and you've called names and changed subjects.

Belligerent I can take. Bitch I can handle, because it's a tiny, tiny toy hammer. What I won't entertain is trolling.

Buh-bye.
[info]snobahr wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 04:18 am (UTC)
Geez. The first response from you had me scratching my head, thinking, "What, is this some sad attempt at sarcasm, aping the impression [info]divalea gave of some DJ-nobody? Because it's just plain flat and stupid." And then you remarked on the emails and whatnot, which made me think, "Oh, okay, he's just a turd. I've seen smarter, more interesting turds in my son's diapers."
[info]ringwoodcomics wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 04:23 am (UTC)
So, you're all class, then.
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 05:22 pm (UTC)
"The "Girls, you don't read comics when they're aimed at you, RIGHT? You think things are great the way they are, RIGHT?" Is about what I expect from a webcomics panel with NOT A SINGLE GODDAMN WOMAN ON IT. *middle finger to San Diego programming*"

Quoting myself, here.
I stand by my middle finger to programming. It has already been documented that CCI programming was weighted towards males.

I still think I'm seeing what I see, namely, Scott Kurtz bags on GAM, Tycho makes jokey, everyone laughs, attitude towards comics aimed at women turns in a not-so-good direction.

However, the clip takes the remarks out of context of the larger panel, and it occurred to me later last night that I had no idea what was said just before or just after. For all I know, Kurtz and company were not at all like this for the entire rest of the panel.

As it turns out, someone who was there confirms that this is so.
[info]jeepersjournal wrote:
Aug. 16th, 2006 03:09 am (UTC)
Told ya so. You should brush up on your Netiquette.
[info]ryuko_midori wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2006 06:54 am (UTC)
There really is no defending that comment, seeing it in its original context. God. He attacks without provocation. That's enough to put a dog down.
(no subject) - [info] - Aug. 21st, 2006 06:28 am (UTC)
[info]divalea wrote:
Aug. 21st, 2006 08:47 am (UTC)
Re: Misrepresenting.
"Delete my post if you want"

Okay!
[info]williehewes wrote:
Sep. 2nd, 2006 09:20 am (UTC)
I'm shocked. I thought DJ Coffman was kinda cool. Clearly, I was wrong. Well, thanks for that lesson.
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